Witch Beatrice

Lore

Beatrice is a rogue witch. She can use sorceries, but is apparently not of the Vinheim Dragon School. Judging from her catalyst's description, she's probably from a clan of witches. The flow of time in Lordran is distorted, and after helping the Chosen Undead fight the Four Kings, she tries to fight them herself and dies in the attempt. This is evidenced by her corpse appearing in the Valley of Drakes after the Four Kings are defeated.

Beatrice's Catalyst:
Contrasts with Vinheim catalysts. This ancient catalyst shows signs of being used for age-old sorceries. It has passed the hands of many generations to get here.

Also, she wears the Witch Set, which bears the description:
Almost all magic users that employ a wand studied at Dragon School, but Beatrice is one of the few exceptions. She braved the Abyss but did not live to tell of her ordeal.

Theories

Witch Beatrice has ties to Velka.

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Speculation, but the evidence for this is:
1. The dark feathers attached to her catalyst (see concept art). Dark feathers could be associated with Velka's crow. Her Catalyst's head also resembles a bird's talon.
2. She is a witch who knows age-old sorceries, Velka is described as a black haired witch versed in arts both old and new. They are both described as being rogues
3. Her catalyst is intelligence based (as you would expect) but it is also interesting to note that offensive items associated with Velka are also intelligence based. Examples being Velka's Talisman and Velka's Rapier.

Witch Beatrice came from Oolacile.

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Evidence for this:
1. You encounter her first in Darkroot, known to be the remains of Oolacile, and in New Londo which was corrpupted by the Abyss much like Oolacile.
2. A child version of Beatrice was slated to appear in the Artorias of the Abyss DLC.
3. Her catalyst was used for "age-old sorceries". Oolacile was well known for its unique Sorceries. The catalyst is also said to "contrast with Vinheim sorceries". Oolacile is the only region other than Vinheim known for sorcery.

Cut Content

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Beatrice, according to cut content, also had a child model, which can be interpreted as a reference to the manga "Berserk", which was mentioned by Miyazaki himself that it had been a great inspiration to him.

In Berserk, the child witch Schierke looks quite similar to Beatrice; both characters are witches, don similar clothing (purple robe and pointy hat), and carry around a staff.

Images here

Note that her staff texture refers to a Wand instead of a Catalyst.

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Comments

Don't be fooled

mourning_would 14 Jun 2020 22:47

Apparently, there's a rumor going around that Witch Beatrice is also Zullie from sotfs and ds3; let me put that to bed right now.

The reasons this poor deluded person gave me for them being the same:
1) "They both wear the same set."
2) "They're both witches."
3) "Patches survived from ds1 to ds3, it doesn't matter how many thousands of years later ds2 came after ds1. Besides, time is convoluted and hollows don't ever actually die, moron."
4) "Beatrice went to the abyss, Zullie and Alva had something to do with the abyss."
5) "The preacher locusts talk about Beatrice in ds3."

My rebuttal:
1) They do not wear the same set. Not only do they look entirely different and have different names, the description of Beatrice's set clearly states she never returned from the Abyss.
2) True enough. But does that mean Karla, Zullie, and Beatrice could all be the same person because they're all heretical witches? If you believe this, I have a bridge in California I'd love to sell you.
3) Patches is clearly the exception to the rule, not the standard. Otherwise we'd see Black Iron Tarkus at the finish line with Patches instead of stripping the armor from his corpse under the rafters. Oscar would never have vanished from the Asylum after being killed a second time. The crestfallen knight would just keep respawning at the bonfire when killed. Beatrices's corpse wouldn't be left to rot in the Valley of the Drakes. Sometimes… "dead" actually means "dead".
4) Beatrice went to the Abyss and never came back. Her set says she didn't live to tell her tale- maybe you think that means she was undead and therefore her "death" to the Four Kings doesn't actually count and her set is false, but if you do, please refer to point #3.
5) The Preacher Locusts talk about 5 individuals:
"One was a wayfaring knight, on an endless, forbidden search.
Only the Abyss granted closure, if not reunion with his beloved.
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin."
This is obviously Alva and from everything we know of Zullie and Alva, Zullie truly loved him. Whether he loved her back is debatable, but Karla is largely believed to be their daughter (potentially forbidden love because of Alva's oath to St. Serretta, but who knows?). If Zullie is his beloved, if Beatrice is also Zullie, and if Alva ended up in the Abyss like the Locust says, then the Abyss would have granted more than closure, it would have granted reunion with his beloved Zullie. Hence, Beatrice is not Zullie. The only other pieces of dialogue that could apply to a witch are these:

"One poor girl slew her own kin, but even so, was embraced, enveloped by the Abyss.
Twas a comfort that neither moon nor sunless sky afforded her before.
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin."
This is naturally referring to Sirris (note the mention of the SUNLESS Realms) who slays her granddad Hodrick at the end of her questline. So no, it can't have anything to do with Beatrice or Zullie.

"And so, she lived in fear. Of the dark, of the things that gnawed at her flesh.
And yet! The Abyss hath yet to produce any such creature!
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin."
Naturally, this is talking about our favorite blind nun, Irina- you know, the one that constantly tells us about the little creatures in the Dark that gnaw at her flesh. Again, nothing to do with Beatrice or Zullie.

But no, you're right- it makes so much more sense for a random npc from Oolacile that can be summoned twice (in relatively hidden places, mind you) who dies in the Abyss at the hands of the Four Kings appears thousands of years later in ds2 as a new person with a new name, a new set, new magic, and the new desire to be a Jezebel for a paladin of Saint Serretta, only to fall in love with him and have a secret child with him in ds3. That definitely makes more sense than there being more than one witch in the entire history of the Dark Souls universe.

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Re: Não se deixe enganar

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